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Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:53 pm
by TC6969
You guys obviously never experienced the horror of 1st generation Taurus handguns from the 70's.

Today's problems pale in comparison.

Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:27 pm
by Miami_JBT
TC6969 wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:53 pm You guys obviously never experienced the horror of 1st generation Taurus handguns from the 70's.

Today's problems pale in comparison.
None of what you stated makes since.

For one, in the 1970s, Taurus wasn't Taurus, they were Bangor Punta (ie, S&W).

In 1962, the Bangor Punta Corporation, then the parent company of Smith & Wesson, purchased 87 percent of Forjas Taurus, allowing the two firearms manufacturers to easily share information regarding design and manufacturing. In 1977, Taurus was purchased from Bangor Punta by its current owners, and its ties to Smith & Wesson were severed.

S&W and Taurus were sister companies and S&W took some ideas from Taurus and Taurus took some ideas from S&W. They traded designs, manufacturing techniques, etc.... the purpose of the purchase of Taurus by Bangor Punta was to increase S&W's sales into Latin America. Not to bring Taurus products into the US>

Also, Taurus didn't manufacture automatics until the 1980s, the first being the Model PT92.

In 1974, the Ministério da Defesa Brasileiro (Brazilian Ministry of Defense) awarded Fabbrica d’Armi Pietro Beretta the contract for their new 9x19mm service pistol, the Model 92. Part of that contract stipulated that Beretta build a factory in the country and hire Brazilians to manufacture the firearms, so that is exactly what happened.

Beretta set up a factory in São Paulo, Brazil and began to crank out Model 92 pistols for the Brazilian Army. In 1980, the contract expired and Beretta was left with a decision. Do they continue to make Model 92 pistols in Brazil or shutter the plant? Beretta went with a third option; they sold the entire package to Forjas Taurus S/A lock, stock, and barrel.

Taurus didn't even establish US operations until 1982 when they opened their HQ in Miami, FL.

It seems you really don't know what you're talking about.

Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:20 pm
by TC6969
Miami_JBT wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:27 pm
It seems you really don't know what you're talking about.
Boy do I feel stupid!

I must have been hallucinating when I bought that heavy barrel model 10 lookalike in early 70's that plainly said TAURUS in several places.

it was a total piece of shit, with soft steel and timing issues that had to be seen to be believed!

https://taurusarmsamerica.com/
TAURUS REVOLVERS

The Taurus Model 38101SO was the company’s first entry into the revolver market in 1941 and in 1968, Taurus began importing revolvers to the U.S. market.

In 1971 a majority stake in Taurus was purchased by the parent company of Smith & Wesson, which lead to the two firearms manufacturers sharing design and manufacturing details up until they split in 1977 when Taurus was sold to its current owners.

Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:46 pm
by George W
TC6969 wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:20 pm
Miami_JBT wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:27 pm
It seems you really don't know what you're talking about.
Boy do I feel stupid!
He can't help it. It's how he is, but also wonders why so few will stand with him at his "rallies." :D

Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:04 pm
by Miami_JBT
TC6969 wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:20 pm
Miami_JBT wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:27 pm
It seems you really don't know what you're talking about.
Boy do I feel stupid!

I must have been hallucinating when I bought that heavy barrel model 10 lookalike in early 70's that plainly said TAURUS in several places.

it was a total piece of shit, with soft steel and timing issues that had to be seen to be believed!

https://taurusarmsamerica.com/
TAURUS REVOLVERS

The Taurus Model 38101SO was the company’s first entry into the revolver market in 1941 and in 1968, Taurus began importing revolvers to the U.S. market.

In 1971 a majority stake in Taurus was purchased by the parent company of Smith & Wesson, which lead to the two firearms manufacturers sharing design and manufacturing details up until they split in 1977 when Taurus was sold to its current owners.
Bangor Punta, not Taurus.... Taurus didn't start American operations until 1982 and their first automatic was the PT92.

What you bought was a Bangor Punta made S&W Model 10 sold under the Taurus name.

Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:04 pm
by Miami_JBT
George W wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:46 pm
TC6969 wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:20 pm
Miami_JBT wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:27 pm
It seems you really don't know what you're talking about.
Boy do I feel stupid!
He can't help it. It's how he is, but also wonders why so few will stand with him at his "rallies." :D
Still getting more done than you. ;)

Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:14 pm
by George W
Miami_JBT wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:04 pm
Still getting more done than you. ;)
Debatable as you've done nothing. Even yet, I can still look in the mirror and not see a fraud.

Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:17 pm
by Miami_JBT
George W wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:14 pm
Miami_JBT wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:04 pm
Still getting more done than you. ;)
Debatable as you've done nothing. Even yet, I can still look in the mirror and not see a fraud.
LOL

Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:13 am
by TC6969
George W wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:14 pm
Miami_JBT wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:04 pm
Still getting more done than you. ;)
Debatable as you've done nothing. Even yet, I can still look in the mirror and not see a fraud.
:lol:

Re: So frustrated with Taurus

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:16 am
by NorincoKid
Well, this went to shit quickly