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Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:36 am
by Tenzing_Norgay
chuckusaret wrote: Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:44 pm If it is not a crime then why is there a $250 fine for doing so.
“in Florida as of 2009, if you illegally park in a designated handicapped-parking space, you can be fined up to $250. If you use the permit of a disabled friend, relative or acquaintance, you can be fined up to $1000 and/or receive six months of jail time”.

Reference: Florida Statute 316-1955
Enforcement of parking requirements for persons who have disabilities
It's not a criminal act. It's an infraction.

So...not a crime.

Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:37 am
by Tenzing_Norgay
chuckusaret wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:04 am
Tenzing_Norgay wrote: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:53 pm If you walked out of the store and saw some dick-wad yelling/wagging his finger at your wife, what would you do?

I surely would not have violently shoved the guy to the ground in the first place and if I had, I surely would not have continued to attack him while he was down.
He didn't "continue to attack".

Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:30 am
by jjk308
Tenzing_Norgay wrote: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:53 pm
Firemedic2000 wrote: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:42 pm I agree it's not a crime to park in a handicap spot. But it is a crime to violently attack another for pointing out that what they are doing is wrong. That attack was VIOLENT
If you walked out of the store and saw some dick-wad yelling/wagging his finger at your wife, what would you do?
If you knocked him to the ground you could be arrested for assault and jailed. So keep a lid on your temper or you may end up the next "victim".

Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:19 am
by Tenzing_Norgay
jjk308 wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:30 am
If you knocked him to the ground you could be arrested for assault and jailed.
And that's how this should have been handled. Nonetheless, "parking lot cop" started it and hopefully will be charged by the State.

Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:36 am
by Situationalray
Fox news is reporting this now. Hitting mainstream news

Syg will be under attack even though this was more self defense imo

Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:50 am
by FfNJGTFO
Situationalray wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:36 am Fox news is reporting this now. Hitting mainstream news

Syg will be under attack even though this was more self defense imo
Which is precisely why Gualtieri said what he said... a "back door" to put SYG under attack... :roll:

Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:23 pm
by tcpip95
Tenzing_Norgay wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:19 am
jjk308 wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:30 am
If you knocked him to the ground you could be arrested for assault and jailed.
And that's how this should have been handled. Nonetheless, "parking lot cop" started it and hopefully will be charged by the State.
Charged with what? Watch the video again. The thug stood over him, and actually made a "football move" towards him (0:13) until he pulled the gun. At that point he was already in fear of his life. Good shoot.

Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:11 pm
by FfNJGTFO
Well, the blame game has started.

Page one on Yahoo! News - Victim's girlfriend says Florida gunman provoked fatal "Stand Your Ground" Shooting....

Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:31 pm
by Skoll
FfNJGTFO wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:11 pm Well, the blame game has started.

Page one on Yahoo! News - Victim's girlfriend says Florida gunman provoked fatal "Stand Your Ground" Shooting....
The comments are pretty much universally, "The article is bullshit and the video tells the truth".

Re: Sheriff Bob Gualtieri: Clearwater shooting fits 'Stand Your Ground'

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:47 pm
by Gunnyhiway
Tenzing_Norgay wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:37 am

He didn't "continue to attack".
Bullcrap !
He was headed back toward the guy he pushed on the ground while pulling his pants up and he started to backup ONLY when he saw the guy had pulled his gun.
I'd have to say self-defense IMO.