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New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:00 pm
by tcpip95
I've bought a number of guns online. Pretty straightforward. Never sold one before, but I'm sure it's more complicated than eBay.

I'm looking to sell my Ruger Mini 30 rifle. If I sell it in FL:

1. Can I just do a face-to-face cash transaction?
2. Do I need to do anything through an FFL?
3. Is there any background checking that I need to do on the buyer?
4. Can I go through PayPal for gun sales?

Thanks for your patience in asking my noob questions.

Re: New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:09 pm
by N4KVE
1 Yes.
2 No.
3 No.
4 I wouldn’t.
GARY.

Re: New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:31 pm
by REDinFL
Agreed with above, though I would be more of an emphatic "NO!" with PayPal unless it's someone you know. Paypal prohibits gun sales. If they find out it's a gun they'll freeze the amount. If you use an alternate word, as so many do, such as "Television", a stranger/potential wise guy can say he never got it. Then the dance begins. No substitute for cash unless it's someone you successfully have dealt with before.

As far as background check, just ask to see Florida ID/drivers license. This is to protect you against a federal trap: you can only sell to a resident of your state. I have not heard of any sting like this happening but, consider that it is the law and a simple possibility, You have no obligation to check further. Also, depending on county, you may be required only to sell to someone with a CWL if in a place open to the public. Another case I've never heard happening but it can, and the law is on the side of the law. Just self-protection, and very simple.

Re: New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:38 pm
by tcpip95
Should I ask for a copy of a drivers license - just in case something were to happen down the road with that firearm?

Re: New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:40 pm
by JonathanW
tcpip95 wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:38 pm Should I ask for a copy of a drivers license - just in case something were to happen down the road with that firearm?
Bill of sale is probably more practical to ask for

Re: New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:46 pm
by tcpip95
JonathanW wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:40 pm
tcpip95 wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:38 pm Should I ask for a copy of a drivers license - just in case something were to happen down the road with that firearm?
Bill of sale is probably more practical to ask for
As the seller I would definitely get/give a bill of sale, or are you talking about something else?

Re: New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:50 pm
by JonathanW
tcpip95 wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:46 pm
JonathanW wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:40 pm
tcpip95 wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:38 pm Should I ask for a copy of a drivers license - just in case something were to happen down the road with that firearm?
Bill of sale is probably more practical to ask for
As the seller I would definitely get/give a bill of sale, or are you talking about something else?
Nope that’s it, that way you have recorded information of the person for future reference. People may be hesitant to give a copy of their driver license as it has their address on it

Re: New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:32 pm
by jwperry
JonathanW wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:50 pm
tcpip95 wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:46 pm
JonathanW wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:40 pm

Bill of sale is probably more practical to ask for
As the seller I would definitely get/give a bill of sale, or are you talking about something else?
Nope that’s it, that way you have recorded information of the person for future reference. People may be hesitant to give a copy of their driver license as it has their address on it
Agreed. Pretty sure that's how my identity got stolen, was after a FTF that I gave a copy of my DL. Now I don't care to sign a bill of sale and any seller who requires one basically kills the sale for me.

If you conduct the negotiation via email, there's really no need. After a meeting I have a clear chain of custody that shows I delivered the item, I'll generally have their phone number, physical description and description of their vehicle. I'll ask to see a DL, but just to make sure they're a Florida resident. Had one guy once who had a Florida CC permit, but was a GA resident.

If "something were to happen" a BoS protects me against civil liability as much as that other information, i.e. it doesn't.

Re: New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 pm
by Gmountain
I'll ask to see a CCW, if I don't know them personally. Then trade gun for cash. Everyone drives away.

Re: New to selling gun: Advice needed

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:08 am
by tcpip95
Another question: When you do a face-to-face transaction, where do you go? I have read that it's best to do it in a public place, or even out in front of a local police station. Any thoughts on this?