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Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:58 am
by P5 Guy
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgdhp
Warnock’s victory is a symbol of a striking shift in Georgia’s politics as the swelling number of diverse, college-educated voters flex their power in the heart of the Deep South. It follows Biden’s victory in November, when he became the first Democratic presidential candidate to carry the state since 1992.
Yeah, diverse, college educated voters.

:evil: :twisted: :roll:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp
Even with this victory, Democrats will have to contend with Senate Republicans. Securing both Georgia seats gives Democrats 50 seats in the Senate, plus Vice President-elect Kamala Harris serving as a crucial tie-breaker for simple majority votes. The catch is that most bills need to clear a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate. Therefore, even if Democrats have control of the Senate, they will generally need around 10 Republican votes to get things done.
Which ten GOP Senators?

Re: Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:18 am
by FfNJGTFO
P5 Guy wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:58 am Even with this victory, Democrats will have to contend with Senate Republicans. Securing both Georgia seats gives Democrats 50 seats in the Senate, plus Vice President-elect Kamala Harris serving as a crucial tie-breaker for simple majority votes. The catch is that most bills need to clear a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate. Therefore, even if Democrats have control of the Senate, they will generally need around 10 Republican votes to get things done.
Or, just like it was done to confirm SCOTUS picks, they invoke the "Nuclear" option. Also, I think one of the first things they're going to try is to eliminate the Filibuster anyway, so they won't need 60 votes.

Re: Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:00 pm
by tector
FfNJGTFO wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:18 am
P5 Guy wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:58 am Even with this victory, Democrats will have to contend with Senate Republicans. Securing both Georgia seats gives Democrats 50 seats in the Senate, plus Vice President-elect Kamala Harris serving as a crucial tie-breaker for simple majority votes. The catch is that most bills need to clear a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate. Therefore, even if Democrats have control of the Senate, they will generally need around 10 Republican votes to get things done.
Or, just like it was done to confirm SCOTUS picks, they invoke the "Nuclear" option. Also, I think one of the first things they're going to try is to eliminate the Filibuster anyway, so they won't need 60 votes.
Possible but every single Dem would have to agree. Manchin would be tough to get on-board, I think. He is better than some RINOs.

Re: Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:03 pm
by FfNJGTFO
tector wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:00 pm
FfNJGTFO wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:18 am
P5 Guy wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:58 am Even with this victory, Democrats will have to contend with Senate Republicans. Securing both Georgia seats gives Democrats 50 seats in the Senate, plus Vice President-elect Kamala Harris serving as a crucial tie-breaker for simple majority votes. The catch is that most bills need to clear a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate. Therefore, even if Democrats have control of the Senate, they will generally need around 10 Republican votes to get things done.
Or, just like it was done to confirm SCOTUS picks, they invoke the "Nuclear" option. Also, I think one of the first things they're going to try is to eliminate the Filibuster anyway, so they won't need 60 votes.
Possible but every single Dem would have to agree. Manchin would be tough to get on-board, I think. He is better than some RINOs.
Which is why I'd love to see Manchin convert to the GOP (hopefully before 01/20) so we'll be back to 51-49, at least... and/or any other Senators of a similar inclination.

Re: Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:13 pm
by tector
Possible. Something like the filibuster issue could push him over the top, so the Dems have to be careful. Same goes--even more--on court packing.

Re: Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:31 pm
by tcpip95
Tester (D-MT) is another one who I don't think would go for it either. If he moves too far left Montana will vote him out.

Re: Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:00 pm
by FfNJGTFO
tcpip95 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:31 pm Tester (D-MT) is another one who I don't think would go for it either. If he moves too far left Montana will vote him out.
We have to identify all these Dem Senators and read the riot act to them.....

Re: Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:13 pm
by tector
The problem is more and more states are going commie--in just the past few years we have seen Colorado, Virginia and now Georgia flipping. Liberal influx bringing their shit politics.

Re: Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:19 pm
by rug357
tector wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:13 pm The problem is more and more states are going commie--in just the past few years we have seen Colorado, Virginia and now Georgia flipping. Liberal influx bringing their shit politics.
I hope pendulum will swing back in next election cycle...but I'm not holding my breath.

Re: Senate and Race

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:27 pm
by FfNJGTFO
rug357 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:19 pm
tector wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:13 pm The problem is more and more states are going commie--in just the past few years we have seen Colorado, Virginia and now Georgia flipping. Liberal influx bringing their shit politics.
I hope pendulum will swing back in next election cycle...but I'm not holding my breath.
I'm thinking it may depend on how close we actually get to having some of those "socialist" policies implemented. Once the sheeples wake up and realize what's happening to them, they may start that pendulum swinging.

Maybe it already has started. Have you seen what's going on at the Capitol building today? Apparently it was swarmed by Protesters. The legislators had to clear out, and barricade the main door to the chamber with furniture! Mannnnn..... :o