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Florida's Lawmakers are Trying to Pull a Switcheroo on Gun Rights

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:58 pm
by Miami_JBT
Over the Hump this Session, and Constitutional Carry is Stalling in the Legislature

With less than a month to go, this legislative sessions adjourns on April 30, 2021. 

Republicans currently hold a 24-16 majority in the Senate and a 78-42 majority in the House. You'd think that pro-gun bills would be flying through the legislature, or that Capitol would be open to the people.

Well, no one can go inside to meet with their lawmakers to voice their concerns since the Republican leadership has deemed to keep the Capitol closed, even though they advertise the state as being open.

They also have pro-gun bills stalling -- and worse, they're throwing crumbs at us and believe that we're happy with them for it.

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Your State Director, Luis Valdes speaking before the House's Judiciary Committee. Telling them to support Constitutional Carry.

On such example is HM 1301, which was heard and debated in the House Judiciary Committee on Monday, April 6. 

The text states the following:

"Expressing the consensus of the Florida Legislature that the President's proposals to restrict the right to keep and bear arms of law-abiding citizens violates the Constitution; provides Florida Legislature, on behalf of the residents of this state, intends to use all of its lawful authority and power to resist or overturn any federal gun-control measure that violates the right of Florida residents to keep and bear arms."

It would appear that the Republican lead legislature is fighting for you.  Especially since on April 8, Joe Biden rambled about stripping honest Floridians of their gun rights. Well, that isn't the case. 

In reality, Florida's Republicans are acting like Disney World. They put a lot and effort into the special effects and costumes to make a world of make-believe seem real.

For starters, HM 1301, which was introduced by Rep. Jason Shoaf (R), is a House Memorial, not a House Bill. There is a big difference. A bill is introduced legislation that if passed carries the force of law. A memorial, if passed, is the method by which the state legislature addresses or petitions the federal Congress to air a grievance and nothing more. 

So if HM 1301 passes, the Republican led legislature will write a angry letter to Congress about Biden's gun control and do nothing more.

Mind you, this piece of legislation was hotly debated and contested in the committee. Republicans and Democrats argued and slung mud at each other and made it seem as if this bill had teeth. But, sadly, it doesn't. 

This is what the Republicans in the legislature are spending the precious few weeks they have in regard to pro-gun legislation. They aren't advancing Constitutional Carry or a true Second Amendment Sanctuary bill.

So GOA was there and we made sure to specifically address this fact to them.

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Luis Valdes, GOA’s FL State Director, addressed the House Judiciary Committee and pointed out that the current legislation which was up for discussion was a waste of time, and that they instead should be passing a sanctuary bill with teeth.

As your State Director, I amplify your voices at the Capitol, and I made sure to point out to the lawmakers gathered there today that HM 1301 is nothing but an insult to GOA's Florida members.

At that committee hearing, Rep. Cord Byrd (R) was there as a member House's Judiciary Committee, and he chairs the House's Criminal Justice & Public Safety Subcommittee. This is the very subcommittee where HB 1205 (Second Amendment Sanctuary) is currently stalled along with HB 123 (Constitutional Carry).  

I made sure to point that HB 1205 is the real bill they should be passing, not the fakery they're pushing. HB 1205 is a true Second Amendment Sanctuary bill with real teeth. If HB 1205 were passed, state and local law enforcement that enforced Biden's gun control would be personally liable since they'd be stripped of their qualified immunity and can be sued as an individual party. 

But it is because of Rep. Byrd's choice as committee chair that he does not move the bill forward. For those that don't know, Rep. Byrd is a lawyer and he even has the gall to advertise his legal practice as one for Second Amendment rights issues.

Yes, he will make the claim that it is because there is no Senate companion bill and that's why he isn't advancing the bill. The truth is far simpler. The House Speaker doesn't want that bill to advance, and Rep. Byrd is following those orders instead of gun owners' wishes.   

We must put pressure on the legislature and more importantly, on Governor Ron DeSantis (R), if we want real pro-gun legislation to move forward. The current leadership is the House and Senate are clearly anti-gun.

Utah, Iowa, Montana and Tennessee (just this week) have all passed Constitutional Carry bills in their legislatures and have sent them to their governors' offices to be signed into law. But Florida, with 102 Republican lawmakers holding a Supermajority, can't even advance one bill out of committee. Meanwhile Texas is advancing four pro-gun bills out of committee.

It is appalling and sickening where Florida is with the current leadership. Constitutional Carry and the Second Amendment Sanctuary bill face an uphill battle.

That's why we need to exert external pressure upon these Legislative Dictators by engaging Gov. Ron DeSantis. By doing so, he can put pressure on the legislative leadership like House Speaker Chris Sprowls (R) and Senate President Wilton Simpson (R). 

As gun owners, you must be loud, proud, and ACTIVE! Make noise!

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Don't be afraid, be loud and be proud!

I made sure to make noise earlier this week when I was in Alachua, FL at the Win America Launch Event. They invited GOA to be a guest speaker and to educate the crowd about what's happening in Tallahassee. 

As you can see, I made sure to be loud and proud as a gun owner and even open carried to show the crowd that I'm not ashamed of being a gun owner, nor do I hide it.

In fact, I didn't hide being a gun owner by carrying my S&W Model 66 .357 Magnum stainless steel revolver. Why such an outdated gun? Because a GLOCK, while better, doesn't catch the eye like old school stainless steel handgun does.

A number of gun owners today are afraid of being publicly outed as gun owners.

They're afraid of openly showing support and exercising their inalienable rights as enumerated by the Second Amendment..

Don't be afraid.

I want you to contact our lawmakers and overload their email inboxes, their voice mail (the Senate is 850-487-5229, the House 850-717-5000, and the Governor's Office is 850-717-9337), and their physical offices with letters. 

Remember what Sen. Baxley said back in 2019:

Republican Lawmakers don’t support pro-gun legislation because they don’t hear any negative criticism from their constituency. They take the silence of gun owners as approval."

Email Governor DeSantis so he can use his office as a bully pulpit to support pro-gun bills and don't forget to email the entire the House and Senate to support pro-gun legislation.

Re: Florida's Lawmakers are Trying to Pull a Switcheroo on Gun Rights

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:14 pm
by MiamiOffshore
Thanks for the fighting the good fight and keeping us informed!

We will continue to maintain the pressure!

Re: Florida's Lawmakers are Trying to Pull a Switcheroo on Gun Rights

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:10 pm
by TACC
Great job and I will continue to be involved in the fight

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Re: Florida's Lawmakers are Trying to Pull a Switcheroo on Gun Rights

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:35 am
by tector
Miami_JBT wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:58 pm Over the Hump this Session, and Constitutional Carry is Stalling in the Legislature

With less than a month to go, this legislative sessions adjourns on April 30, 2021. 

Republicans currently hold a 24-16 majority in the Senate and a 78-42 majority in the House. You'd think that pro-gun bills would be flying through the legislature, or that Capitol would be open to the people.
I have tried to avoid being Debbie Downer on your threads--and I agree DeSantis is the person to target, since he needs the votes of the ENTIRE state--but I am sadly not surprised at what you describe at all. What are you are describing has been the status quo for several years now in Tallahassee. The Florida GOP is largely a corporatist party, and will do whatever the fuck the chambers of commerce, the Mouse, the Florida Retail Federation, etc. want. Moreover, many of the GOP transplants we have came here for from the more commie states for economic reasons--lower taxes, less regulation, a generally more favorable business environment, etc.. They are generally "OK" with "moderate conservatism" on guns. So between the Dems and these business conservatives, WE become the outliers.

Re: Florida's Lawmakers are Trying to Pull a Switcheroo on Gun Rights

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:16 am
by Miami_JBT
tector wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:35 am
Miami_JBT wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:58 pm Over the Hump this Session, and Constitutional Carry is Stalling in the Legislature

With less than a month to go, this legislative sessions adjourns on April 30, 2021. 

Republicans currently hold a 24-16 majority in the Senate and a 78-42 majority in the House. You'd think that pro-gun bills would be flying through the legislature, or that Capitol would be open to the people.
I have tried to avoid being Debbie Downer on your threads--and I agree DeSantis is the person to target, since he needs the votes of the ENTIRE state--but I am sadly not surprised at what you describe at all. What are you are describing has been the status quo for several years now in Tallahassee. The Florida GOP is largely a corporatist party, and will do whatever the fuck the chambers of commerce, the Mouse, the Florida Retail Federation, etc. want. Moreover, many of the GOP transplants we have came here for from the more commie states for economic reasons--lower taxes, less regulation, a generally more favorable business environment, etc.. They are generally "OK" with "moderate conservatism" on guns. So between the Dems and these business conservatives, WE become the outliers.
I know this isn't a new issue. It has been going on for over a decade and I've witnessed it personally.

Florida population is part of the problem. Only 36% is native born. The rest are from elsewhere like NY for example. They come to Florida and see shall issue CCW, no AWB, state preemption, etc... so for them it is a better environment already and they see no need to further improve it.

The RPOF is old school Republican. Country Club Northeastern Big Business/Government Elitist.

But things can change.

Texas was in a very similar situation. Ten years ago, they were in a worse spot than Florida. No open carry, no campus carry, a Republican Party that killed pro-gun legislation, and a population that came from elsewhere and saw no reason to expend energy and effort to change things.

Right now, after a lot of hard work to turn Texas Gun Owners and Voters around, they have open carry, campus carry, and are on the verge of getting Constitutional Carry. That is the culmination of six years worth of hard work and effort by GOA's two Texas State Directors.

They started on the ground floor grass roots level like I am right now and first, brought light to the issue, and secondly, they educated and motivated the people to become politically active.

Apathy is why we're at where we're at.

YOU HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THINGS.

As long as you (and I'm not saying that you specifically are active tector) are an Eeyore or a Debbie Downer and stay home and don't fight. The RPOF will continue on the path that they're on now.

Right now, the lawmakers see just me at the Capitol. They're not afraid, yet. But I'm in the process of changing that. A lot is happening behind the scenes. They will see and hear gun owners next year. I am not like the other lobbyist from the other gun organization that kowtows and carries the RPOF's water.

Shake off the cobwebs and let's get active!

Re: Florida's Lawmakers are Trying to Pull a Switcheroo on Gun Rights

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:41 am
by tector
Miami_JBT wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:16 am
Florida population is part of the problem. Only 36% is native born. The rest are from elsewhere like NY for example. They come to Florida and see shall issue CCW, no AWB, state preemption, etc... so for them it is a better environment already and they see no need to further improve it.

The RPOF is old school Republican. Country Club Northeastern Big Business/Government Elitist.

But things can change.

Texas was in a very similar situation. Ten years ago, they were in a worse spot than Florida. No open carry, no campus carry, a Republican Party that killed pro-gun legislation, and a population that came from elsewhere and saw no reason to expend energy and effort to change things.

Right now, after a lot of hard work to turn Texas Gun Owners and Voters around, they have open carry, campus carry, and are on the verge of getting Constitutional Carry. That is the culmination of six years worth of hard work and effort by GOA's two Texas State Directors.

They started on the ground floor grass roots level like I am right now and first, brought light to the issue, and secondly, they educated and motivated the people to become politically active.

Apathy is why we're at where we're at.

We agree completely. And it is worse than apathy--you can see here, right on FSN. For years (now lost in the Big Crash) I used to bring up open carry every legislative session, asking people to contact their reps. While many here would support, I'd also get every kind of idiot response:

1. We have too many "Bubba" gun owners who can't be trusted to open carry appropriately, and would scare the soccer moms.

2. It would frighten the tourists! We need tourists!

3. Open carry is bad tactical move, who needs it?

These are all utterly retarded points regarding a right, but I would see them each and every year, as sure as (twice a year) we see people bitching about adjusting their clocks an hour (a less retarded point, but just as predictable).

It's like the old Pogo thing--we have met the enemy, and he is us.

Re: Florida's Lawmakers are Trying to Pull a Switcheroo on Gun Rights

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:23 am
by Deputydave
Got this in my email today and sent my email to the Governor. Also posted it on FB so others could do the same. I would encourage everyone, with whatever social media they have (FB, Twitter etc) to do the same and get the word out strong. There is strength in numbers, particularly when we start kicking over stones and shedding light.