Florida Shooters Network

PHOENIX (3TV/CBS 5) - A homeowner opened fire on armed robbers who broke into his Phoenix home and now police are asking the public's help in finding the suspects before they strike again. It happened Thursday around 3:45 a.m. at a house near 36th Avenue and Pinnacle Peak Road.

Police said security cameras alerted the homeowner that four men were outside. Detectives believe some of them were armed. When they kicked in the front door, the homeowner shot at them. The crooks ran back to their gray car and drove off.

Firemedic2000 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:52 pm Really are you joking. 4 thugs kick in your front door and you start shooting. PHOENIX police apparently thought it was good shoot. I'd at least got 2 of them at the door with a shotgun.

Your right though they sure could run watching video he might have gotten one maybe in the butt

YEARS ago a friend shot an intruder through his door before he even got door open. No charges. That was in Plant City on North state rd 39 just outside city limits. It happened in 94 or 96 I think. Different times though. We actually had stricter laws pertaining to use of deadly force back then. Remember you had to attempt to retreat, No stand your ground ect....honestly I was surprised he was not charged in that.

N4KVE wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:40 pm

Firemedic2000 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:52 pm Really are you joking. 4 thugs kick in your front door and you start shooting. PHOENIX police apparently thought it was good shoot. I'd at least got 2 of them at the door with a shotgun.

Your right though they sure could run watching video he might have gotten one maybe in the butt

YEARS ago a friend shot an intruder through his door before he even got door open. No charges. That was in Plant City on North state rd 39 just outside city limits. It happened in 94 or 96 I think. Different times though. We actually had stricter laws pertaining to use of deadly force back then. Remember you had to attempt to retreat, No stand your ground ect....honestly I was surprised he was not charged in that.

Castle doctrine. GARY

Tenzing_Norgay wrote:

N4KVE wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:40 pm

Firemedic2000 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:52 pm Really are you joking. 4 thugs kick in your front door and you start shooting. PHOENIX police apparently thought it was good shoot. I'd at least got 2 of them at the door with a shotgun.

Your right though they sure could run watching video he might have gotten one maybe in the butt

YEARS ago a friend shot an intruder through his door before he even got door open. No charges. That was in Plant City on North state rd 39 just outside city limits. It happened in 94 or 96 I think. Different times though. We actually had stricter laws pertaining to use of deadly force back then. Remember you had to attempt to retreat, No stand your ground ect....honestly I was surprised he was not charged in that.

Castle doctrine. GARY

Can't shoot someone through a door...

776.013[EM SPACE]Home protection; use or threatened use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—
(1)[EM SPACE]A person who is in a dwelling or residence in which the person has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use or threaten to use:
(a)[EM SPACE]Nondeadly force against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force; or
(b)[EM SPACE]Deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
(2)[EM SPACE]A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using or threatening to use defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:
(a)[EM SPACE]The person against whom the defensive force was used or threatened was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and
(b)[EM SPACE]The person who uses or threatens to use defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.

Tenzing_Norgay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:13 pm

dammitgriff wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:54 am
1. Wonder if door cameras have been validated in court as a means for the homeowner to determine whether deadly force is necessary?
2. Wonder why cops serving a warrant to the wrong address where they bust the door open and get fired upon by the homeowner is not considered illegal entry by the courts and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law?
R/Griff

dammitgriff wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:54 am
2. Wonder why cops serving a warrant to the wrong address where they bust the door open and get fired upon by the homeowner is not considered illegal entry by the courts and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law?
R/Griff