ABOC wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:03 am
Deputydave wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:21 pm
...It is a pistol that I would like to like. But I'm going to give it a while longer to see if the early issues have indeed been fully resolved...
I am pretty much in the same boat. For me it's not even about the gun having some teething issues (a lot of new designs do), it's about Sig's way of addressing them. Admitting there were a few problems and letting customers know what is being done to fix them is a lot more productive than denying reality until you can't and having everyone speculate about the changes that have been implemented.
I hope the OP's 365 runs like champ when he finally takes it to the range, like that I will have an excuse to buy one...
rentprop1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:35 pm
yep, pass ...G43X is where its at
My thoughts on the G43X so far: ...Meh... And yes I do own one.
I will have to give it more time but so far I 'm not convinced.
To me both the G43 and the G43X missed the mark.
Bit of an update:
I came across a trade deal on an unfired 365 with two 10-round mags and a 12-round mag that I couldn't pass up, even though it was a non-manual safety model. Born on date was 02/19. After researching further to make sure the issues had been resolved from last years early runs I decided to make the trade. After taking it to the range I was well pleased. No issues and it ran just fine. About the same size as a Ruger LC9s with increased capacity and excellent night sights (Xray sights). Decided to qualify with it and now it's my off-duty weapon, replacing my well-loved G26.4.
R&R Sports in Tampa had a deal on the Special Edition NRA Sig P365, the one in FDE with the Challenger coin. It was such a good deal I decided to buy one. Haven't shot it yet, just stuck it in the safe. But I did like the FDE color on it quite a bit.
I'm hoping at some point Sig will offer a manual safety conversion. I spoke with them about it and though they have no current plans to offer it, they've received so many inquires that they've sent the idea to upper management. We'll see.
As far as the G43X or G48. I'll pass. Now let me clarify; I like Glock. I carry Glock on duty, teach Glock and until replaced by the Sig I carried Glock off-duty. So I like Glock. But I'm not a fan-boy or Glocktard. I can be highly critical of somethings relating to Glock. As far as the G43, I had one and I liked it. But it is inferior to pistols like the Ruger LC9s, S&W Shield and Taurus G2 in terms of options and capacity. I traded it away. The G43X and G48 are Glocks backwards answer to Sig's 365. They are solid pistols. They are Glocks. But they are going in the opposite direction from the 365. To be fair, Glock has no choice because they can't compete head-to-head with Sig in a micros/sub-compact format because of the design of their poly magazines. So going larger was Glocks only option. So imo, the G43X and G48 are in a niche that I really don't need or value i.e large single-stack 9mm. If I want a pistol the size of a G43X or G48 I'll go back to my G26.4. It's only slightly thicker and I can at least have options in magazine size rather than being limited to a magazine that doesn't work in other Glocks. So while the G43X and G48 are solid shooters, they are an answer to a question no one even cares about.
My reasoning is simple; what is the purpose of a small, single-stack 9mm? Concealability is the prime reason. So the pistol is small and light enough to comfortably carry all the time. Perhaps even pocket carry. While the G43 meets that standard (barely as it's a tad on the larger side of sub-compact) it suffers from low capacity and non-interchangeability on magazines. Sure, you can add +1 or +2's but then you have to make sure to function test as some brands of extensions do suffer malfunctions at an unacceptable rate imo. The Ruger LC9s and Taurus G2S are better in this regard in that they are the same size (actually the LC9s is smaller than the G43 and closer to the G42 in size). The LC9s is lighter than the G43 and holds either 1 additional round or 3 additional rounds if you use the 9-round extended mag. At least it's an option or for your back up mag. The Taurus G2 is slightly higher in capacity, as a manual safety (if you want one) and has the ability to use Sig mags. Both the Ruger and Taurus are about half the price of the Glock yet offer more features. Now add in the G43X and G48 and you see that Glock went even farther away from the main purpose of the single-stack 9mm.
I have a couple of Ruger LC9s' and they're a great little pistol. I've not shot the G2S but I have shot the slightly larger G2 as I owned two of them a while back as well as the PT709. Things shot everything I feed them. Accurate, comfortable and ridiculously inexpensive. I also have a S&W Shield and although it's also on the large side for a single-stack it offers a lot of features over the G43 at half the price.
And of course now that Sig has gotten it's act together on the P365 all the others are losing ground. The P365 is the size of the LC9s yet I can load 10, 12 or 15 rounds. I liked Glock (and still do) but not enough to switch to the Sig. Just a more comfortable, solid pistol. The Sig, like the Glocks are still overpriced for plastic pistols but at least the Sigs came down substantially from what they initially started out at.