Honest Question about these vaccines

[Firemedic2000]

If I go by what this socialist government says.

If you die and...
You have only one shot your not vaccined
If you get both shots but die within 14 days like 55,000 conservative number medicare patients did. Your a unvaccinated death

Yet for vaccine numbers...
If you have just one shot they count you as vaccinated.
Now from what I'm reading. When they release boosters for everyone. Your not vaccinated now unless you get booster. If you die without booster will they count you as unvaccinated to boost that number
You know like they do with people who only have one shot. For vaccinated numbers yes, or for covid death yes

Remember the FDA recommendation about booster shot. Over 65 or need one for medical reasons. Guess which pharmaceutical company is pushing the FDA and ignoring FDA scientists to give children and adults under 65 the shot/booster.
Why do these people not follow their own science and cover up and hide data.
Not to mention they've stopped reporting alot of data on vaccinated people. Except for deaths

My wife got the two shot version 7 months ago. She's just started breaking out with rashes and splotches on her legs and arms. I promise you they will say that an experimental Mrna vaccine has nothing to do with it. She's never had anything like this before. She said she is going to doctor next week or asap

[N4KVE]

So then if someone gets both shots at 73 years of age, but dies 10 years later, they can blame it on the vaccine? GARY.

[tector]

I'm 60 with an arrhythmia and a pacemaker. Vax was a no-brainer for me. It's basically the same calculation you have to make with all prescription drugs (and many OTC drugs). Yes, there's risk involved, but does it outweigh the risk of the disease being avoided/mitigated? If I was 25 and healthy, a whole different calculation perhaps. Everyone should be free to make their own assessment. Personal liberty over your own body is the most foundational right there is.

I got a flu shot last week, like I do every year. Why? The flu can bring high fever. High fever is a MFer on my arrhythmia (I have standing orders from my electrophysiologist to head to the ER if I hit 101). Sometimes they miss on one of the strains on the street (they guess months in advance) so you can still get the flu anyway. Oh well, you can only do the best you can.

Health is like a game of chess which you know in advance you WILL lose. We are all just dodging checkmate until we can't. When you reach a certain stage you can see the moves ahead clearly enough--I'm nearly there.

PS: Anybody who posts "I got the flu from a flu shot" is a mouth-breathing idiot. It's a dead virus, dummy. You can feel ill effects (I never have), but no, you don't have influenza viruses coursing and multiplying through your body.

[N4KVE]

Got my flu shot last week. At my age it’s a double dose. Had the flu 30 years ago, & it was awful. A million times worse than the Covid I got last summer. I’ll gladly roll the dice, but everybody has the right to make their own choice. GARY.

[Firemedic2000]

I remember having the flu back in 68 or so. The last big out break. I was 8. It laid me out for about 7 days. I remember my fever being 104 and my mother putting cold compresses on my forehead. Temp broke, but man did it kick my little eight year old but.

One thing though I've never caught the flu since. Just started getting the flu vaccine about 4 years ago. Even though I'd never caught it since I was eight. What's funny there was no lock downs, mandates or 24/7 news coverage. Heck it was not even frontpage news. NASA space program was

https://www.britannica.com/event/1968-flu-pandemic

I agree all medical decicisions should be between an individual and their private doctor. Then left up to the individual. Not some left wing socialist extremist faction with an agenda. That has no idea about your health needs.

But my post above had more to do with how the government twists numbers to suit their needs and twist the data. By all means do what you must to stay healthy.

I think if these same people that screamed when Trump was in office," I'm not taking this shot, I do not trust it. Had first off kept their mouths shut and then once they used this virus to corrupt a national election. Then mandate/force people to inject themselves with a drug they themselves cried wolf against under Trump. People may not have been so against getting it. I honestly believe all those news shots of those socialist extremist pretend politicians taking the shot.....was just staged. Because they already said on national news they did not trust the shot. I do not believe they took it or at least most did not. I remember see one news clip of someone getting a shot and there was no needle on the syringe .But that's just my belief.

I'll be 60 next month.

But I'm with tector at 60 I'm done. I just want to smoke cigars and drink good whiskey and fish and the darn government to leave me the F alone and stop trying to rule my world.

[Deputydave]

[tector]

"Healthcare workers" are often morons and obviously unhealthy--walk through any hospital and you will see many routine "healthcare workers" (which means just about anybody working in a hospital or clinic) who are fatter than me (which is saying something). And if you ever have to deal with a hospital you know how many people there are oblivious idiots--to the point of endangering you (the last time I was checked-in to a hospital, I left AMA to get the hell away from them).

Doctors are overwhelmingly vaxxed. I have quite a few personally that I have seen this year--electrophysiologist, cardiologist, gastro, orthopedic, ENT, skin, endocrinologist, pulmonologist, dentist and GP. All vaxxed, all had their staffs all vaxxed.

Memes are not logical arguments. If you don't want a vax, good for you. But don't take refuge in bullshit.

[Firemedic2000]

Hey tector you a Pokémon fan

Your right what alot do not realize is when your in a hospital. Your renting that room just like a hotel room. Nurses, Doctors and staff work for you because your basically are paying them to preform a service. I've actually told doctors they are idiots and they were fired get out

Talk about red face you must watch what they are doing to you because they can and will screw up meds and treatments. I've gotten dressed and walked out of a hospital once. the whole they said I can't do that. I told them I was going to find real medical help.

[TonyR]

Healthcare workers include everyone from the valet at the front door to the janitor at the back door, and everyone in between. As much as I hate to say it but Tector is right.

[tector]

I was a "healthcare worker" in high school--I worked in the kitchen at (then named) Hollywood Memorial Hospital. A lot of people from our high school worked there--transportation (i.e. moving patients), janitorial, etc. All of us had to comply with hospital policies--if they were vaxxing back then, we would have had to do so, or get fired. It is no different today. Giving any credence to the decisions of "healthcare workers" is ridiculous on its face.