I am voting for the Dem 2024 nominee if Trump is the GOP nominee

[Deputydave]

If Donald Trump found some way to be genuinely in peril in Florida, he's done anyway, because he is going to lose his ass in several states that are absolutely essential to him.

How did that prediction work out for you? Seems like he swept the Blue Wall along with all the other battle ground states. Seems like he was up double digit points in all the metrics as well.

The "wasted vote" bullshit is the last resort of idiots.

You strike me as a very angry, bitter person. You like to toss out name-calling to anyone you disagree with or marginalize their opinion. Having said that, yes...you wasted your vote. Jill Stein has never been a serious contender so voting for her is not 'sending a message' to anyone.

TDS is a real thing unfortunately. Thankfully people like you are in the minute minority.

As for me, this is the third time I voted for President Trump and I will thoroughly enjoy his third term.

[SoFlo]

AND some of you antigun folks here!

GTFO with your purity test BS. Go ahead and list for us all the good DT has done for the 2A, I'll wait. All I seem to recall was a bump stack ban that was subsequently ruled unconstitutional.

You answered your own question!

Hint: Look at tector's avatar. There are two more like him for now. And countless others at the levels below, with hopefully more to come in the years ahead.

[tector]

If Donald Trump found some way to be genuinely in peril in Florida, he's done anyway, because he is going to lose his ass in several states that are absolutely essential to him.

How did that prediction work out for you? Seems like he swept the Blue Wall along with all the other battle ground states. Seems like he was up double digit points in all the metrics as well.

I readily admit I did not anticipate the Dems running the worst possible candidate, a blithering idiot that never garnered a single delegate in either 2020 or 2024. They are dumber than I could imagine. Sorry!

I also did not anticipate Trump getting shot--sorry about that as well.

In other words, I did not anticipate the craziest election season since at least 1968 or arguably 1876. Guilty, guilty, guilty.

I have no idea how old you are, nor do I care. I am old enough to remember when Trump first appeared on the American scene 40 years ago. From Day One he has been a grifter, the proverbial used car salesman on a grand scale. What started this thread, however, was his gratuitous shitting on DeSantis because of Trump's petty ego. DeSantis has been the best governor this state has had during my lifetime. Is he perfect? No, but those imperfections were not the basis of Trump's comments. They arose from Trump just being a petty asshole, as he has always been.

As for his first term, I have always given credit for his Supreme Court picks, although they were the same people who were on lists of most of the GOP candidates, so it wasn't something that would have been unique to him.

He got bad luck (at the least) with Covid, be he's the one who stuck with Fauci, pushed Operation "Warpspeed," etc. It was handful of governors, not Trump, who pushed back on that bullshit.

On immigration, he talked a big game, but actually accomplished not much of lasting value. The last 4 years proved that--the worst ever on the issue.

His biggest problem is that, first term, he surrounded himself with total clowns: his idiot son-in-law, Kushner? Bolton? Pompeo? Nikki Haley? Pence???

Now, supposedly, he's learned his lesson. There is some evidence for that--despite coming VERY close to picking Marco Rubio (!!!) for VP, he went with Vance, post-assassination attempt (also not known time at the time of the OP). Vance alone is 100x better than anyone in the inner circle the first time around. IF Mr. "Drain the Swamp" can avoid surrounding himself with Swamp Creatures again this time around, he could actually be a great president--as opposed to an object of worship in a cult of personality. The guy is 78 and will need to leave a legacy to achieve that.If he had died after his first term, what was his legacy?

As hinted above, I think the assassination attempt may have changed him (you'd think it might). Whatever else might be said about him, he handled that incredibly well. That was, by far, his greatest election campaign triumph. Gotta give the man that.

As to the rest of your BS, I just had a hip replacement surgery Thursday, so I just don't particularly care that much. I am alternating between pain and oxys, both of which greatly diminish my interest in jousting that much.

[Deputydave]

I am old enough to remember when Trump first appeared on the American scene 40 years ago. From Day One he has been a grifter, the proverbial used car salesman on a grand scale.

You are entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is...your opinion. The man became a billionaire. Along the way he did quite a few things behind the scenes like set up college funds for the children of 9/11 first responders. He's always been on the side of LE and Firefighters and has championed racial and gender equality before it became fashionable. And he's been calling out BS for decades now which is why Joe Private Citizen connects with him so much.

What started this thread, however, was his gratuitous shitting on DeSantis because of Trump's petty ego.

It's called politics and didn't seem to faze DeSantis the same way if effected you. Seems like DeSantis endorsed President Trump after the sparring was done. To be against President Trump for that petty nonsense is ridiculous.

They arose from Trump just being a petty asshole, as he has always been.

I see him as one of the toughest SOB's on the planet to endure the shit-fest the left has thrown at him since 2015. And not only did he survive, he thrived and it made him stronger.

On immigration, he talked a big game, but actually accomplished not much of lasting value. The last 4 years proved that--the worst ever on the issue.

Either you are completely ignorant on this issue or your pain meds have kicked in too early. Illegal immigration reached an all time low under his term. The guy you were going to vote for opened the border up day one of his regime. Can't blame President Trump for Brandon undoing all of his efforts.

His biggest problem is that, first term, he surrounded himself with total clowns: his idiot son-in-law, Kushner? Bolton? Pompeo? Nikki Haley? Pence???

Seems you are hooked on legacy media so you don't really understand the big picture and what he did during his first term. That's on you for not doing the research. It's a warfare tactic called, 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'. And because he did so he allowed them to expose themselves for what they actually are. I knew that was happening as early as 2017. Why didn't you figure it out as well?

As to the rest of your BS, I just had a hip replacement surgery Thursday, so I just don't particularly care that much.

We all have issues. It's how you handle those issues that speaks to your character. The way you've acted in this thread since the OP has demonstrated your integrity quite clearly. Hopefully you'll use this as a learning opportunity and educate yourself on something other than the MSM.

[tector]

Take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

[Deputydave]

I expected that type of response. When a person of low integrity can't defend their position they lash out with profanity and hysteria.

Well done and thank you for proving my point.

[NorincoKid]

I expected that type of response. When a person of low integrity can't defend their position they lash out with profanity and hysteria.

Well done and thank you for proving my point.

We need a "like" button

[lakelandman]

I expected that type of response. When a person of low integrity can't defend their position they lash out with profanity and hysteria.

Well done and thank you for proving my point.

This is why I never talk to anti-Trump supporters about it; we can talk about anything but that. I think once they start with name-calling, you have lost the argument hands down. I find it entertaining, but it gets old fast, just like the media. I put them both in the same category. On a side note, I watched the Kamala Harris supporter's meltdown on TikTok, which was priceless. I waited four years for this, and they didn't disappoint me.

[tector]

Guys, I am sorry I'm preoccupied right so I can't come out and play. I'm sure you'll find some other way to amuse yourselves. Burn incense or whatever else cultists do and have at it. As Jefferson famously responded when asked what he would do if his neighbor was an atheist, it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

Over the weekend, whoever is running the show this time did two great things. First, it was semi-politely announced that neither Haley nor Pompeo would be in the Trump II administration. It was done in a perfect passive-aggressive tone befitting those scumbags. Then, in a thinly veiled shot across the bow of McConnell, it was made clear that GOP Senate leadership going forward needs to be on-board for the broader agenda. McConnell is trying to keep one of his guys in charge. The opposition to that appears to be spearheaded by Vance (who could serve as John Adams did), and aided by Rick Scott, so kudos to him as well.

These things matter in the real world. People in need of lives jerking off here, not so much.

[Deputydave]

Guys, I am sorry I'm preoccupied right so I can't come out and play.

And yet you still manage to have time to insult your fellow members

You are an angry, petty man who gives off all the signs of being mentally unstable. Mentally balanced people don't talk the way you have in this thread. Maybe you should take this time to reflect on your behavior and all the things in this thread that you were wrong on and grow as a person. Whether or not you choose to do so will reflect on your character and mental well-being. But I urge you to do so.