Hopefully, with the anticipated relaxation of rules on Suppressors, cans, etc., I am thinking about which portions of my "inventory" I might consider for a can. The objective being, to suppress sound in the event one of my inventory is needed for HD/SD (primarily internal at home) and me not having time to don ear protection. I would never EDC such an item. It would stay in one of my "quick access ready safes" but "at the ready" (i.e. condition "1" or "0").
Of your inventory, what would y'all choose to "can?" I'm thinking, for example, about canning one of my RIA 1911 .45acps. I know I'll need to re-barrel it as the present barrel is not threaded for it (as are none of my HG's). No way to screw on a can. I could also consider re-barreling one of my Mossberg Shockwaves but, again, it would need to be re-barreled.
Or, maybe, I just need to drill and practice donning ear protection in a HD/SD SHTF scenario. I know how small my bedroom is. If something goes "bump in the night" I'm not sure I'd have the reaction time to retrieve my weapon and put on ears at the same time. I'd have to practice that. But I also know that having to fire any of my inventory from inside my small bedroom will reek havoc on my ear drums. Or, pretty much, anywhere inside the house.
Still, hopefully, I can have at least one of my handguns "canned" and at the ready for such a thing. Should I bother to can my 1911 (if possible), or another item?
Which item of yours would you choose?
Which Handguns would you "can?"
I guess I am out of the loop-- why is this "anticipated," or, more to the point, reasonably anticipated?
“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.”
i gather you *don't* believe it's "anticipated" or should be?
I have "reasonable" faith that people like Patel and Bongino will make things like this happen. And that new ATF director Dan O’Kelly,,, Plus the fact that things like this would appear to be "low hanging fruit" as "giveaways" to the pro-2A community at the Federal level. as opposed to something a lot more complicated/politically intense, like OC or eliminating "Red Flag Laws & civil asset forfeiture" at the State level. I know DeSantis has stated he wants to do both OC and Red Flag Laws before he leaves office, but he's still going to have to get it past the FL GOP Leadership (Assemb. Speaker and FL Sen. Pres). He hasn't been able to, so far. What can he do now to change things?
But none of this has to do with answering my question. What handguns would you consider "canning" if it were easier to do so? I mean, maybe you don't mind going through the NFA process for cans, but I do. I will only do it if those rules are "relaxed" and no tax stamp is required (I.e. ATF DO NOT PASS GO! DO NOT COLLECT $200.00). Otherwise, it's just not worth the trouble,
There are thread adapters for the 1911, which take the place of the barrel bushing. Simple attachment. Yes, possible issues with cycling. The alternative, which you suggested, is a threaded barrel. Hanging a can on that can affect the barrel lockup. A toss-up, depending on which of your 1911s you’d use.
For myself, I have some 1911s, might go the route above, but may do my PPK instead, as the barrel is fixed to the frame. Actually, even thinking of reverting to that platform anyway.
I think I could just flip on my “headphones” quickly enough, though. Where we are in the house would give enough time to get ready. Then I have a narrow field of fire.
I would hope there is good reason for the expectation of simplifying the regulations. Maybe I won’t even need that, but I’d like to see this regulation nation return to requiring “An Act of Congress” to impose anything on the people. Enough of “policies” and twisted interpretations by petty tinhorns.
For myself, I have some 1911s, might go the route above, but may do my PPK instead, as the barrel is fixed to the frame. Actually, even thinking of reverting to that platform anyway.
I think I could just flip on my “headphones” quickly enough, though. Where we are in the house would give enough time to get ready. Then I have a narrow field of fire.
I would hope there is good reason for the expectation of simplifying the regulations. Maybe I won’t even need that, but I’d like to see this regulation nation return to requiring “An Act of Congress” to impose anything on the people. Enough of “policies” and twisted interpretations by petty tinhorns.
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a Single Star.
I'm seriously pissed at myself for not jumping into the suppressor world years prior. They make everything about shooting better. What handgun should you suppress? The correct answer is all of them. Any decent 1911 with a threaded barrel is fine if 1911s are your thing. Any suppressor used on a pistol that isn't a direct blowback will likely need a piston to run reliably.
I'm not holding my breath on any relaxation making suppressors more widely available, but I started getting into them a few years ago anyway so if it happens, it would just make things a bit easier. Really, my best results have been with suppressing an UZI SBR as the mag was easy to swap out and there was no problem with cycling but as you asked about a handgun I'll try to keep to that.
So, all that being said, it depends on how much effort you want to put into it. Rebarreling a 1911 is fairly easy and 45ACP is inherently subsonic so you can use just about any FMJ ammo, and a suppressed 1911 is a thing of beauty. Unfortunately, you'll likely have to get raised sights for it which would likely require some gunsmithing. You could also try a Berretta 92 model. You could easily swap barrels on it too, but if you want to cheap out a bit, the standard barrel sticks out enough to get an acceptable length of contact if you wanted to thread it. I'd personally prefer to replace the barrel though, which is what I did with my Taurus 92's . Unfortunately, you'd likely have to get raised sights also. With either of these, you may need to look into a Nielsen Device as depending on the weight of the suppressor, it may interfere with the function of the gun unless you get a very small suppressor. I managed to get two very small suppressors in 9mm and 45 ACP so I can use them both without functioning problems, but the sights are still an issue that need to be dealt with. Also, if you go 9mm, you'd have to buy (or load) separate sub-sonic ammo. If you don't want to have any issues with cycling, you could try something with a fixed barrel such as a Makarov, but you'd still have to rebarrel it and that would be even more complicated because the barrel can't be swiped in and out.
So, all that being said, it depends on how much effort you want to put into it. Rebarreling a 1911 is fairly easy and 45ACP is inherently subsonic so you can use just about any FMJ ammo, and a suppressed 1911 is a thing of beauty. Unfortunately, you'll likely have to get raised sights for it which would likely require some gunsmithing. You could also try a Berretta 92 model. You could easily swap barrels on it too, but if you want to cheap out a bit, the standard barrel sticks out enough to get an acceptable length of contact if you wanted to thread it. I'd personally prefer to replace the barrel though, which is what I did with my Taurus 92's . Unfortunately, you'd likely have to get raised sights also. With either of these, you may need to look into a Nielsen Device as depending on the weight of the suppressor, it may interfere with the function of the gun unless you get a very small suppressor. I managed to get two very small suppressors in 9mm and 45 ACP so I can use them both without functioning problems, but the sights are still an issue that need to be dealt with. Also, if you go 9mm, you'd have to buy (or load) separate sub-sonic ammo. If you don't want to have any issues with cycling, you could try something with a fixed barrel such as a Makarov, but you'd still have to rebarrel it and that would be even more complicated because the barrel can't be swiped in and out.
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The Silencerco Osprey negates the need for raised sights in most cases.cvasqu03 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:28 pm I'm not holding my breath on any relaxation making suppressors more widely available, but I started getting into them a few years ago anyway so if it happens, it would just make things a bit easier. Really, my best results have been with suppressing an UZI SBR as the mag was easy to swap out and there was no problem with cycling but as you asked about a handgun I'll try to keep to that.
So, all that being said, it depends on how much effort you want to put into it. Rebarreling a 1911 is fairly easy and 45ACP is inherently subsonic so you can use just about any FMJ ammo, and a suppressed 1911 is a thing of beauty. Unfortunately, you'll likely have to get raised sights for it which would likely require some gunsmithing. You could also try a Berretta 92 model. You could easily swap barrels on it too, but if you want to cheap out a bit, the standard barrel sticks out enough to get an acceptable length of contact if you wanted to thread it. I'd personally prefer to replace the barrel though, which is what I did with my Taurus 92's . Unfortunately, you'd likely have to get raised sights also. With either of these, you may need to look into a Nielsen Device as depending on the weight of the suppressor, it may interfere with the function of the gun unless you get a very small suppressor. I managed to get two very small suppressors in 9mm and 45 ACP so I can use them both without functioning problems, but the sights are still an issue that need to be dealt with. Also, if you go 9mm, you'd have to buy (or load) separate sub-sonic ammo. If you don't want to have any issues with cycling, you could try something with a fixed barrel such as a Makarov, but you'd still have to rebarrel it and that would be even more complicated because the barrel can't be swiped in and out.
https://silencerco.com/silencers/osprey-2-0/
I guess we interpret the term “anticipated relaxation of rules” differently, because in my mind, it’s already happened. Form 4’s are now being approved in a few days instead of 9 months. While $200 was a big deal in 1934, it ain’t $hit today, & to me, it’s another stamp to add to the collection. Now to your question. I’m using a Glock 26, & the threaded barrel was $65. GARY
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I think needing government permission (and the consequent paper trail) is what's more concerning. I agree that if you can afford the can, the $200 is more of an annoyance than anything.N4KVE wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:02 amI guess we interpret the term “anticipated relaxation of rules differently”, because in my mind, it’s already happened. Form 4’s are now being approved in a few days instead of 9 months. While $200 was a big deal in 1934, it ain’t $hit today, & to me, it’s another stamp to add to the collection. Now to your question. I’m using a Glock 26, & the threaded barrel was $65. GARY
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Update: Apparently, I may not be able to re-barrel my RIA 1911 so easily. I emailed AMSCOR for their recommendation on a threaded barrel and whether or not they had any they could supply. The reply I got (apparently from their PI based support team) was hard to decipher. They didn't even tell me whether or not they had a replacement threaded barrel for the RIA 1911, but they were quick to say, "If you use any 'aftermarket' barrel on it, it will void the warranty!"
Ah well. I guess I'll have to look at a 1911 with a pre-installed threaded barrel. Maybe I can also find one that has adjustable sights.
Ah well. I guess I'll have to look at a 1911 with a pre-installed threaded barrel. Maybe I can also find one that has adjustable sights.