Civil Disobedience by Gun Owners in the 21st Century?

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Civil Disobedience by Gun Owners in the 21st Century?

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Civil Disobedience by Gun Owners in the 21st Century?

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With the coming Federal bump stock ban and various state level infringements that are on the drawing board or currently being enforced. I ask this simple question. Will American Gun Owners protest by civil disobedience? As we've seen in New York and Connecticut recently, when they mandated that gun owners register their firearms. Many chose not to and told both state governments to go fly a kite.

Americans have a long history of civil disobedience. It actually goes as far back as to the founding of our nation. The Patriots that took on the Red Coats during the battle of Lexington and Concord started as civil disobedience. The Sons of Liberty started with openly flaunting and exercising their rights in front of the Crown. They openly spoke out against taxation without representation, they dumped teat into the harbor, and they kept their arms that the British wanted to confiscate.

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They were defiant and fought both morally and physically against the Crown to make this very country.

Later in our nation's history, you had oppressed Black Americans sit in lunch counters, on bus seats, and drank from fountains they were forbidden from using. They publicly marched down streets and avenues and told their oppressors that they will not go quietly into the night and that they will face beatings, dog attacks, water hoses, arrests, and even death.

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They did this so their children and grandchildren can be free. So they can pursue their lives as they see fit. Attend school, gain an education, enter the workforce, and achieve the American dream.

More recently, the Gay Community in our country also publicly protested and participated in civil disobedience. Gay individuals and couples demanded equal treatment. They openly lived their lives in defiance of what was dictated to them. They marched in the streets, flaunted local laws, and pushed the public boundaries of what was considered appropriate so they could live their lives in equality as their neighbors.

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They faced public criticism, violence, and loss of employment so they can have the same rights that other Americans have taken for granted.

Will gun owners as a whole take the same road? Will they start to openly flaunt and violate gun control laws? We have stories across the country so far from places like Colorado where gun shops only sell 30rd AR magazines and of course the failure of firearm registration in New York and Connecticut as mentioned earlier. Will gun owners take part in civil disobedience by not turning in their bump stocks? Will they openly use them at ranges when the date making them verboten passes?

In regards to carry rights, will more gun owners simply bypass government permission in states like California Florida and march while open carrying? In Washington State, will gun owners go to their Capitol and publicly trade firearms without a background completed?

I ask these questions because change doesn't come by asking permission. History has shown that change comes by demanding it and fighting for it. Fighting for civil liberties isn't just in the form of open violence. The Founding Fathers knew that the Freedom of Speech (Civil Disobedience) is tied directly to the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (Threat of Violence).

The expansion of civil rights occur since those that demand its expansion threaten those that restrict them with violence, but promise to hold back if an agreement is met and rights are expanded. That is what our rights is all about. The ability to back up our barks with bites. Gun Owners as a whole thump their chest online and in person at gun shops and shooting ranges. But publicly, they don't. Many fear getting in trouble and losing what they've built. Which, is understandable but in the end. That fear is what causes us to lose.

Our Founding Fathers pledged their wealth, their property, their honor, and their lives. A number gave all for the cause. The question now, will gun owners eventually make the same pledge?

We have a few in the gun owning community that have stood up and exercised their rights through civil disobedience. For example, Mike Taylor publicly exercised his rights and was taken into custody yet he still continues to fight for his carry rights.

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But sadly, 7,000 Florida gun owners visited the Tampa Gun Show to buy more stuff to horde than take to the streets like what Mr. Taylor has done. At the last pro 2nd Amendment rally in Tallahassee. Only about 500 gun owners showed up. Yet Florida alone has over 1 million CCW permits.

So will gun owners stop being sunshine patriots? Will they stand up and fight for our rights and those of their fellow man and woman. Will they back up their boisterous statements like "from my cold dead hands" by actually taking action? Will they stop relying on others and do what's needed before they get to the ballot box (never mind any other boxes). Will they search out their elected officials and openly flaunt their despotic rule making through civil disobedience? Will they meet with them and make their voice heard.

Will Gun Owners start to exercise their rights as the Founders intended? That is the question.
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I think we are likely at peak, or just past-peak, on modern gun rights (not referring to ye olde golden days before the GCA of 1968 or the NFA). It is going to be ugly going forward.

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Civil disobedience is a non-violent leftist tactic used in combination with the press to emotionally manipulate people, and I wouldn't consider throwing tea overboard a form of it.

Holding signs up and marching like a bleeding heart before they enact another ban isn't going to do shit. The communist media is not on your side.
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Will gun owners take part in civil disobedience by not turning in their bump stocks? Will they openly use them at ranges when the date making them verboten passes?
Have there been any reports of this?
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we are all just a bunch of talk or are we silently waiting to make the point sink in, NEVER shall be infringed
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No one wants to stand up and be the first to make a point because we all have too much to lose. We spend our entire lives in the acquisition of shit we don't really need so we've let our possessions own us, whereas our forefathers did not have this problem.
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Politicians only pay attention to those who threaten their continued feeding at the public trough.

Sign protests don't work.
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I think zeebaron has a good point: the media is not on your side. Demonstrations are effective only if the reporting has a favorable spin. We know how that will go. I cringe when I hear calls for thousands (or, even hundreds) of firearms owners marching holding empty guns. We know how that will be reported, and lied about, and silly people exhibiting horror, which we also know will be put on the "Daily Truth".

We are going to have to make decisions for ourselves. What are we going to do, or not do? How will we react? What will affect us? These will be individual, based on our situations. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. We will have to awaken and use our primary weapons - our minds. What obviously is coming won't be pleasant; we just need to be prepared.
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It’s best not to discuss these things nowadays online.....
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Greg wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:01 am It’s best not to discuss these things nowadays online.....
Even private forums aren't safe now, because AntiFa & SJW's collecting SSI & welfare for their mental illness get to sit at home all day and infiltrate them if you're against their agenda. They collect all the info they can and use it against members.
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