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Sort of. ATF arrested a guy for doing just that and the judge dismissed it with prejudice and told them he would hold them in contempt of court and throw them in jail if they tried that stupid again (My paraphrasing)
Well, that's a relief, but it's also the same kind of decision ATF can "rescind" whenever they decide they feel like it. It's one of the reasons my plan was to do an actual SBR.
We're you one of the guys that sent ATF a letter asking about the braces.cvasqu03 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:25 pm This whole brace thing has always seemed like a powder keg to me. They were designed specifically to brace on your forearm for use of a firearm one handed like a pistol, but they looked like a stock and many people used it as a stock. As I understood it, it was legal because it wasn't a stock, and although it "could" be used as one (with some difficulty given how short it was), doing so would mean you'd assembled an illegal SBR. Unfortunately, just about every video I see of someone using a brace they're using it as a stock instead of as a brace.
I kept thinking about what happened with the Akins Accelerator and how people kept asking ATF about how it was legal and what they could do with it until ATF decided it wasn't legal and had everyone deactivate or return theirs. I figured ATF would probably try the same thing with these braces as more and more people kept using them as stocks. As much as it says about ATF, it also says a lot about the busybodies who keep poking the bear.
It's too bad too, I was hoping to get myself one of these pistols and file the papers to SBR it and install a proper folding stock on it.
LOL. Hell NO! I'm not one to poke the bear.Firemedic2000 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:57 pmWe're you one of the guys that sent ATF a letter asking about the braces.cvasqu03 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:25 pm This whole brace thing has always seemed like a powder keg to me. They were designed specifically to brace on your forearm for use of a firearm one handed like a pistol, but they looked like a stock and many people used it as a stock. As I understood it, it was legal because it wasn't a stock, and although it "could" be used as one (with some difficulty given how short it was), doing so would mean you'd assembled an illegal SBR. Unfortunately, just about every video I see of someone using a brace they're using it as a stock instead of as a brace.
I kept thinking about what happened with the Akins Accelerator and how people kept asking ATF about how it was legal and what they could do with it until ATF decided it wasn't legal and had everyone deactivate or return theirs. I figured ATF would probably try the same thing with these braces as more and more people kept using them as stocks. As much as it says about ATF, it also says a lot about the busybodies who keep poking the bear.
It's too bad too, I was hoping to get myself one of these pistols and file the papers to SBR it and install a proper folding stock on it.
cvasqu03 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:07 pmLOL. Hell NO! I'm not one to poke the bear.Firemedic2000 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:57 pmWe're you one of the guys that sent ATF a letter asking about the braces.cvasqu03 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:25 pm This whole brace thing has always seemed like a powder keg to me. They were designed specifically to brace on your forearm for use of a firearm one handed like a pistol, but they looked like a stock and many people used it as a stock. As I understood it, it was legal because it wasn't a stock, and although it "could" be used as one (with some difficulty given how short it was), doing so would mean you'd assembled an illegal SBR. Unfortunately, just about every video I see of someone using a brace they're using it as a stock instead of as a brace.
I kept thinking about what happened with the Akins Accelerator and how people kept asking ATF about how it was legal and what they could do with it until ATF decided it wasn't legal and had everyone deactivate or return theirs. I figured ATF would probably try the same thing with these braces as more and more people kept using them as stocks. As much as it says about ATF, it also says a lot about the busybodies who keep poking the bear.
It's too bad too, I was hoping to get myself one of these pistols and file the papers to SBR it and install a proper folding stock on it.
PLEASE post the online ATF letter saying this. It will save several of us a lot of time and effort to solve a basic brace problem we currently have.
https://vpc.org/wp-content/uploads/2019 ... 1-2017.pdf
