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Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:13 pm
by Gregg
General rule of self defence.

Do no go for your weapon until you are totally sure in your mind that you need to defend yourself, PERIOD!
If you decide you have to defend yourself; draw your weapon and open fire, immediately, PERIOD.
Continue firing until either you have neutralize the threat, or you run out of ammo, PERIOD.
If empty, reload as quickly as possible, if able to do so.

Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:50 pm
by Firemedic2000
REDinFL wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:28 pm What about a situation in which the police have been ordered to stand down, whether not even there, or standing back? You get attacked....
I don't know. You tell me. If your armed and are out and just out of being at the wrong place at the wrong time. You happen into a riot.

You are physically attacked and are being beaten on by a MOB. You tell us. Would you just lay there on the ground and allow yourself to be beaten senseless. Maybe even beaten to death.

This is not New York City or New Jersey, this is Florida. You were not looking for trouble. Out of fear of LIBERALS violating Florida law would you just lay there maybe die or would defend yourself.

I know what I'd do. But I or no one here can make that decision for you. That's something you must decide on your own. Then don't look back and second guess yourself. Your a smart man. If it happened I bet you'd know what to do real fast

I also know that no one here glorifies the thought of ever having to exercise that right. Because even though you may be in the right. It will still haunt you for the rest of your life.

GREGG nailed it though. Do not ever draw your weapon until your to use. Then you keep firing till it's empty. Reload evaluate, 2 seconds if need be repeat. Try to retreat to a safe position or to your primary weapon. Like the one in your truck. Then attempt to get away.

Don't stand around waiting to sign autographs. L.E. under the command of liberal democrats are worthless pos. They are putting the safety of these fascist radical extremist groups over the the safety honest AMERICANS.

This right here should tell us all. That if ever there is an unconstitutional law passed to confiscate firearms by the RADICAL DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY. L.E. will do it and say they were just following orders.

Talks cheap when L.E says they would not obey such an order. Yet when they follow orders and stand down and allow this kind of destruction to take place. When they allow these kinds of attacks to take place. When they arrest those that do defend themselves against these rioters. Their actions speak louder than cheap words.

We right his very moment are sitting on the door steps of a war in this nation. I honestly never thought I'd see it come to this. But there is a POLITICAL PARTY that is actually pushing for one if they do not get absolute power. This SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY is endorsing a POLITICAL REVOLUTION with then as the leaders of the PARTY.

I will also say, I've never seen a POLITICAL PARTY in my life time. Ever attempt a POLITICAL COUP of a sitting PRESIDENT and to try to over turn an election by the American people before. Openly do it also. Weather you like Trump or not. This should be of great concern to everyone. The previous administration even left behind plants to do this too.

Also think about this the DEMOCRATS wanted to weaken the military, now weaken LAW Enforcement/DEFUND POLICE TOTALLY, DISARM AMERICA, BAN BODY ARMOR. What the hell. Do they have plans on using the UNITED NATIONS to overthrow AMERICA. Once they've taken away everything AMERICANS have to fight back with. Somethings going on here. They are planning something.

If President Trump wins RE-ELECTED all hell will break loose.

Excuse my posting. This stupid word check and grammar check is screwed up and changed and added to my posts. I then have to edit it and remove things. It anticipates what I'm going to write and I do not catch it. I end up with dlb postings ect.

Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:31 pm
by REDinFL
I don't intend too just be on my knees. I've made my decisions, including and especially the circumstance I outlined, as we've seen that. I just posed it as a rhetorical question, since a number have posted about following "procedures", when such procedures are made by another set of offenders. (I trust I've made myself sufficiently obscure.)

Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:35 pm
by Firemedic2000
REDinFL wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:31 pm I don't intend too just be on my knees. I've made my decisions, including and especially the circumstance I outlined, as we've seen that. I just posed it as a rhetorical question, since a number have posted about following "procedures", when such procedures are made by another set of offenders. (I trust I've made myself sufficiently obscure.)
I bet you have. A rioters would be a fool to cross your AO :lol: I'd really really like to get me a street legal armored vehicle. I wish the old APCs were street legal :twisted:

Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:33 pm
by rentprop1
Gregg wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:13 pm General rule of self defence.

Do no go for your weapon until you are totally sure in your mind that you need to defend yourself, PERIOD!
If you decide you have to defend yourself; draw your weapon and open fire, immediately, PERIOD.
Continue firing until either you have neutralize the threat, or you run out of ammo, PERIOD.
If empty, reload as quickly as possible, if able to do so.
we need an entire thread on the " AND THEN WHAT "....

do you retreat back into cover and call the cops and wait around to explain what happened or will you be trying to hold off a mob of people all holding cell phones that just captured the shooting and actual events that lead up to it ?? I for one hope there are other like minded individuals around to provide cover and support, and be witness for my side.

or

is it gonna be like the purge, just skip down the street and grab more ammo from the truck, rinse, lather, repeat ? :mrgreen:

Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:58 pm
by REDinFL
But, that would be telling.

Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:09 pm
by Firemedic2000
rentprop1 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:33 pm
Gregg wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:13 pm General rule of self defence.

Do no go for your weapon until you are totally sure in your mind that you need to defend yourself, PERIOD!
If you decide you have to defend yourself; draw your weapon and open fire, immediately, PERIOD.
Continue firing until either you have neutralize the threat, or you run out of ammo, PERIOD.
If empty, reload as quickly as possible, if able to do so.
we need an entire thread on the " AND THEN WHAT "....

do you retreat back into cover and call the cops and wait around to explain what happened or will you be trying to hold off a mob of people all holding cell phones that just captured the shooting and actual events that lead up to it ?? I for one hope there are other like minded individuals around to provide cover and support, and be witness for my side.

or

is it gonna be like the purge, just skip down the street and grab more ammo from the truck, rinse, lather, repeat ? :mrgreen:
:lol:

Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:06 am
by Tenzing_Norgay
Firemedic2000 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:50 pm
If President Trump wins RE-ELECTED all hell will break loose.
If Trump wins in a controversial manner, it will be a 💩 show...

Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:22 am
by REDinFL
It will be made to be controversial.

Remember, "It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes." Attributed to J. Stalin; can't vouch for it as I wasn't there. (I believe none of what I hear and only half what I see.)

Re: Concealed Carry Against a Mob: When To Draw

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:12 am
by Chigger
Tenzing_Norgay wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:06 am
Firemedic2000 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:50 pm
If President Trump wins RE-ELECTED all hell will break loose.
If Trump wins in a controversial manner, it will be a 💩 show...
If Trump's wins even in a non controversial manner it's gonna be a crap show.

Hopefully there will be Jim Jones style kool-aid fests around the country and then we can MAGA.