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Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:29 pm
by Wulfmann
I agree with that Matt, every word
Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:04 pm
by REDinFL
Molivo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:09 pm
N4KVE wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:54 am
I find the term “unlicensed dealer” to be an oxymoron. If you don’t have a FFL “licence”, you’re not a dealer. If you do have a FFL “licence” you’re a dealer. Nothing wrong with walking around a show selling unwanted items. GARY.
If you buy something under value, knowing its worth more, and immediately put it up for sale for a profit, and do it repetitively, but aren't licensed to do it, what would you call that?
I knew someone who did that; some other members may remember the same guy. He got a warning from ATF. They didn't jump him and cuff him, or beat him with sticks; they told him not to do it. He eased off for a few months and went back to his old ways. Wound up a year in club FED. The warning was a gift. Those paying attention took a lesson from it. Intelligence learns from experience, genius learns from the experience of others.
That said, I don't do a business. Like so many others, I decide I want a different caliber, or no longer want the collector items I had craved. So, I sell them. Done. In my old age, I've settled on a few items, which should hold me. I suppose some "activist" types would think I should be sent to Devil's Island or simply tortured in perpetuity. What they can do with themselves is too technical for the forum. But, I have no worries about ATF because my actions were legit.
Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:44 am
by 45caldan
When is this "rule" go into effect?
Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:37 am
by Wulfmann
The media said 30 days it goes into effect. I believe Biden signed this (illegal? certainly unconstitutional) order first week of April.
So, as soon as May 1
Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:04 am
by P5 Guy
I knew an FFL that pushed to have all firearms transferred thru an FFL.
He loved the easy money he could make doing transfers. $50.00 for filing and background checks.
Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:16 pm
by Molivo
P5 Guy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:04 am
I knew an FFL that pushed to have all firearms transferred thru an FFL.
He loved the easy money he could make doing transfers. $50.00 for filing and background checks.
Until he realizes there’s an army of kitchen table dealers that would spring up to do them for $10
Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:52 am
by P5 Guy
Molivo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:16 pm
P5 Guy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:04 am
I knew an FFL that pushed to have all firearms transferred thru an FFL.
He loved the easy money he could make doing transfers. $50.00 for filing and background checks.
Until he realizes there’s an army of kitchen table dealers that would spring up to do them for $10
I am not sure of the rest of Florida but St. Pete a gun seller has to be in a commercial zone.
Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:46 am
by Molivo
P5 Guy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:52 am
Molivo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:16 pm
P5 Guy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:04 am
I knew an FFL that pushed to have all firearms transferred thru an FFL.
He loved the easy money he could make doing transfers. $50.00 for filing and background checks.
Until he realizes there’s an army of kitchen table dealers that would spring up to do them for $10
I am not sure of the rest of Florida but St. Pete a gun seller has to be in a commercial zone.
Atf doesn’t care. It’s up to the city or county you live in.
Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:02 pm
by Wulfmann
I will have my one table at this weekend's Melbourne Gun Show.
There are various shows around the state so if you go to one LUK what the scuttlebutt is from those and I will post next week on what I hear at the Melbourne show
Re: Gun Show Loophole closed? What does it mean?
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:05 pm
by Molivo
P5 Guy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:52 am
Molivo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:16 pm
P5 Guy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:04 am
I knew an FFL that pushed to have all firearms transferred thru an FFL.
He loved the easy money he could make doing transfers. $50.00 for filing and background checks.
Until he realizes there’s an army of kitchen table dealers that would spring up to do them for $10
I am not sure of the rest of Florida but St. Pete a gun seller has to be in a commercial zone.