Florida Shooters Network

Taco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:19 am A lot of folks are out of date.

Obama executive order, post Newtown shooting- fingerprints now required for a transfer to trust (used to be only individual), but removed chief law enforcement officer (cleo) signoff requirement. Basically an effort making both processes more similar.

What did it have to do with a shooting where a disturbed individual killed his mother then took her firearm and killed a bunch of kids at school? Absolutely nothing, but after Congress took a pass at passing new nonsense laws Obama wanted to do 'something '. This didn't really do anything except check off the 'something' and got to bolster calls for tighter background checks to close the 'gunshot loophole'. On the plus side it took away the potential of rogue cleo's using the signoff as a gun control measure (it was intended as an administrative step for record keeping- never ment as a permission slip), additionally cans are such a small part of the overall market, not much fighting around it. Typically politican move, doing nothing and making it look like something.

Villafuego wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:28 am

Taco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:19 am Obama executive order

41(P) had nothing to do with an executive order.....it was an ATF rule change that started due to lobbying by groups for eliminating the CLEO sign off requirement.

Tenzing_Norgay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:26 am

Cubanstang50 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:44 pm You live in south Florida. You have no choice but to do a trust if you want one.

No longer accurate. They did away with the CLEO approval years ago (see above). You only have to "notify" the CLEO now. I dropped my last notification in the mail "postage due".

Taco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:50 am

Villafuego wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:28 am

Taco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:19 am Obama executive order

41(P) had nothing to do with an executive order.....it was an ATF rule change that started due to lobbying by groups for eliminating the CLEO sign off requirement.

I'm no expert in NFA. I mostly know to stay away.

Sorry if I editorialized history- in my head that is how it happened.

Here is a link on rule 41 for anyone interested, I don't think I was too far off, but again, not my area.
https://www.nfafa.org/atf41p.cfm

Firemedic2000 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:10 am

Taco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:50 am

Villafuego wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:28 am

41(P) had nothing to do with an executive order.....it was an ATF rule change that started due to lobbying by groups for eliminating the CLEO sign off requirement.

I'm no expert in NFA. I mostly know to stay away.

Sorry if I editorialized history- in my head that is how it happened.

Here is a link on rule 41 for anyone interested, I don't think I was too far off, but again, not my area.
https://www.nfafa.org/atf41p.cfm

I wonder what they do with those notifications. Just throw them in the trash maybe

Firemedic2000 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:10 am

Taco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:50 am

Villafuego wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:28 am

41(P) had nothing to do with an executive order.....it was an ATF rule change that started due to lobbying by groups for eliminating the CLEO sign off requirement.

I'm no expert in NFA. I mostly know to stay away.

Sorry if I editorialized history- in my head that is how it happened.

Here is a link on rule 41 for anyone interested, I don't think I was too far off, but again, not my area.
https://www.nfafa.org/atf41p.cfm

I wonder what they do with those notifications. Just throw them in the trash maybe