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As FL GOA's State Director, I am fighting for dope not being a gun rights issues in terms of it stripping someone of their rights.tector wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:26 pmShe is not sincerely pushing CWPs--it is part of her statutory gig, so that is why she flashes one. Remember way back when Kirsten Gillebrand was highly rated by the NRA--then she got more power and turned completely. Fried will put that to shame at the first opportunity.Miami_JBT wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:55 pm The funny thing is, a CCW and a MJ are fine since having both means you don't automatically possess either item.
Fried is crazy since she's pushing both. But honestly, Constitutional Carry, Private Sales, and a Second Amendment Sanctuary resolve this issue.
But there is nothing per se illegal about having a CWP and a MM card. You can have a CWP and not own (or even possess) a gun, and the same with a MM card and weed. The cards signify statutory rights you have qualified for, that's it. They are not legal evidence of anything beyond that.
However, when actual guns and actual weed mix, there are problems due the idiocy of the federal laws. This is problem for us all, but particularly for our vets, many of whom can benefit from MM for pain and PTSD. If the NRA, GOA, VFW, AL, etc., had genuine principles they would be fighting tooth and nail to get marijuana de-scheduled. But they are all in the clutches of people with other agendas, so don't count on it.
IC. On 21e, when it said "...an unlawful user of..." I thought, yeah not unlawful if one has a card. Then I read the warning, which was the Ah Ha moment.N4KVE wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:50 pm Here’s the current form. Question 21E. Oh, check out question 14 too. GARY.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473- ... 9/download
Understood--but for millions of potential gun owners in many states it is an actual barrier to lawful purchase which, as I said, disproportionately affects American veterans. I appreciate your personal point of view and efforts, but this should not be a side issue. For example, this affects far, far more people than fucking bump stocks or even braces. It needs to be fought, not excused away--and such a fight would give cover to the idiotic Republicans who are largely responsible for keeping this federal scheduling in place. As an aside, this is another issue Trump blew--it could have been his "Nixon to China" moment, but that was beyond his imagination.Miami_JBT wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:57 pmAs FL GOA's State Director, I am fighting for dope not being a gun rights issues in terms of it stripping someone of their rights.tector wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:26 pmShe is not sincerely pushing CWPs--it is part of her statutory gig, so that is why she flashes one. Remember way back when Kirsten Gillebrand was highly rated by the NRA--then she got more power and turned completely. Fried will put that to shame at the first opportunity.Miami_JBT wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:55 pm The funny thing is, a CCW and a MJ are fine since having both means you don't automatically possess either item.
Fried is crazy since she's pushing both. But honestly, Constitutional Carry, Private Sales, and a Second Amendment Sanctuary resolve this issue.
But there is nothing per se illegal about having a CWP and a MM card. You can have a CWP and not own (or even possess) a gun, and the same with a MM card and weed. The cards signify statutory rights you have qualified for, that's it. They are not legal evidence of anything beyond that.
However, when actual guns and actual weed mix, there are problems due the idiocy of the federal laws. This is problem for us all, but particularly for our vets, many of whom can benefit from MM for pain and PTSD. If the NRA, GOA, VFW, AL, etc., had genuine principles they would be fighting tooth and nail to get marijuana de-scheduled. But they are all in the clutches of people with other agendas, so don't count on it.
But understand that we only have so many resources right now and we have to triage our resources for the battles we are facing across the state and country.
I never got a headache, but I sure puked many times from drinking. And that’s legal. If you smoke too much, you don’t get higher, but if you drink too much, well we all know what happens. In my whole life, maybe 3 times I got a great buzz without getting sick. Most of the time I drank too much, & puked, or didn’t drink enough, & wished I had weed instead. But now, the old lady down the street cooks great cookies, & after eating 1/3 of a cookie, I feel great the whole day. And no headache, or puking. GARY.
'N4KVE wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:15 pmI never got a headache, but I sure puked many times from drinking. And that’s legal. If you smoke too much, you don’t get higher, but if you drink too much, well we all know what happens. In my whole life, maybe 3 times I got a great buzz without getting sick. Most of the time I drank too much, & puked, or didn’t drink enough, & wished I had weed instead. But now, the old lady down the street cooks great cookies, & after eating 1/3 of a cookie, I feel great the whole day. And no headache, or puking. GARY.
Anybody who understood what LIBERTY was, I say was because it doesn't exist anymore thanks to fudds like Reagan... Just like the 2A, it doesn't really exist anymore either.
