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What is Attempted First Degree Murder ?
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:55 pm
by Slartibartfast
turned the tv on this morning and caught the end of the
verdict being read in the Corey Jones shooting. the ex
WPB cop Nouman Raja was found guilty of manslaughter
and attempted first degree murder.
how can it be attempted murder if the guy died ?
https://www.wpbf.com/article/nouman-raj ... r/26714629
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Re: What is Attempted First Degree Murder ?
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:15 pm
by Flashooter22
The attempted first degree murder charges were for the additional shots that were fired and did not hit. They deemed that the actual death was manslaughter, however the continuance in firing shots brought it up to first degree murder. The thing is, they cannot tell when the actual death shot was fired, however it doesnt actually matter.
Re: What is Attempted First Degree Murder ?
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:34 pm
by MadMan
Flashooter22 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:15 pm
The attempted first degree murder charges were for the additional shots that were fired and did not hit. They deemed that the actual death was manslaughter, however the continuance in firing shots brought it up to first degree murder. The thing is, they cannot tell when the actual death shot was fired, however it doesnt actually matter.
^^^This^^^
Along the lines of shooting to stop the threat and continuing to shoot him(at him) after he died.
Picture the old movie scene where a bad guy kills another guy, then walks up and emptied his mag on the body. There's a line there between self defense and some real anger issues...or murder. Evidently, the jury identified that line.
Re: What is Attempted First Degree Murder ?
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:18 am
by Slartibartfast
got it......thanks
Re: What is Attempted First Degree Murder ?
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:09 pm
by Firemedic2000
IM waiting to hear his sentence he actually gets.
Re: What is Attempted First Degree Murder ?
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:21 pm
by Dr. Dickie
Although Raja had told investigators previously that he had called 9-1-1 before shooting Jones, the audio recording of the emergency call showed the shots had been fired 33 seconds before Raja dialed. The recording also showed that Raja never identified himself to Jones as a police officer. In a State Attorney's Office report released on January 17, 2017, prosecutors state that Officer Raja lied to investigators, giving an account of events that contradicted the evidence.
A lot harder to get away with BS in this day and age.
Re: What is Attempted First Degree Murder ?
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:32 pm
by Flashooter22
Firemedic2000 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:09 pm
IM waiting to hear his sentence he actually gets.
I bet he ends up with 25-30. That is about average for murders less then first degree here.
Re: What is Attempted First Degree Murder ?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:57 am
by Firemedic2000
Your probably right
Re: What is Attempted First Degree Murder ?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:40 am
by Slartibartfast
you never know, ex Chicago officer Jason Van Dyke was just sentenced in january
to 81 months after being convicted of second-degree murder and 16 counts of
aggravated battery.
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/18/68639166 ... ald-murder
although i did read the Illinois attorney general has asked the Illinois supreme
court to review what prosecutors consider to be too lenient a sentence.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/ ... 49744.html