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The Perils of Open Carry

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:15 pm
by tector
I favor the right of open carry. But I would not employ it everyday. Here's a couple of Georgia cases from this year showing why:

https://twitter.com/MagicBelle1/status/ ... 4111641601

https://twitter.com/MagicBelle1/status/ ... 6439213058

(Yes, I see other commonalities in these cases, but I couldn't possibly list all the cases that fit that.)

For me, open carry--beyond being a right--seems best suited to (1) eliminate any possibility of getting busted for inadvertantly revealing a gun, and (2) for when you want to "peacock" a gun (say in a post-hurricane situation) to just push the bad guys down the road to your dopey, liberal, unarmed neighbors.

Re: The Perils of Open Carry

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:24 am
by FfNJGTFO
tector wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:15 pm I favor the right of open carry. But I would not employ it everyday. Here's a couple of Georgia cases from this year showing why:

https://twitter.com/MagicBelle1/status/ ... 4111641601

https://twitter.com/MagicBelle1/status/ ... 6439213058

(Yes, I see other commonalities in these cases, but I couldn't possibly list all the cases that fit that.)

For me, open carry--beyond being a right--seems best suited to (1) eliminate any possibility of getting busted for inadvertently revealing a gun, and (2) for when you want to "peacock" a gun (say in a post-hurricane situation) to just push the bad guys down the road to your dopey, liberal, unarmed neighbors.
Believe it or not, we totally agree! And, in the absence of a true OC law in FL, at least they could clean up the "Improper display/brandishing" law to remove that discretion given to LE. It's #3 on my "fab-4" list.

1) Repeal and eliminate Red flag laws
2) Make "Civil Asset forfeiture" illegal.
3) Clarify brandishing law to remove that "discretion."
4) Join with other states to form a compact to combat Federal Anti-2A interference.

Re: The Perils of Open Carry

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:22 pm
by ireman412
Totally agree.

Re: The Perils of Open Carry

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:15 pm
by ADulay
Still can't fine the word "Brandish" in the Florida statutes.

AD

Re: The Perils of Open Carry

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:25 am
by FfNJGTFO
ADulay wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:15 pm Still can't fine the word "Brandish" in the Florida statutes.

AD
I think FL law refers to it as "Improper display of a concealed firearm." But I believe that's what they mean... brandishing. But whatever it's called, it should be clear in the law what it is, and what it isn't, or what it should/shouldn't be, such that there is no room for "discretion" by LE. I don't believe that LE should ever have the discretion of interpreting an "accidental display" as "brandishing." For example, if the weapon accidentally drops out of the holster (which it shouldn't, but it can/does happen), or if the concealment garment is too short if you reach for something on a grocery shelf and it's seen, or if you're "printing," etc. Now, OTOH, if the carrier draws the weapon from a holster, or deliberately lifts up their clothing and exposes the weapon, as if to say, "Watch out... look what I have..."), then yeah, that would be an improper display, and pretty stupid to boot.